Episode 20

Episode 20- “Thinking About Woody”
“Thinking About Woody” offers a cornucopia of perspectives on the life and legacy of the great American balladeer Woody Guthrie. Interviews with Guthrie scholars are interwoven with spoken and musical excerpts from Woody himself and a huge cast of supporting characters in an astonishing range of genres.  Clockwise from top: Alan Lomax, Pete Seeger, Rhiannon Giddens & The Resistance Revival Chorus, AdamaKamisoko Watermelon Slim, Keith Secola, David Amram, Mile Krajina, Ramblin’ Jack Elliott, John McCutcheon The Alibi  Sisters, Joshua Brian Campbell, Will Kaufman, Benya Stewart, Tantrum Zentrum, Gus Stadler, Sihasin.

Interviewees:

Will Kaufman, author of “Woody Guthrie, American Radical”
“Woody Guthrie’s Modern World Blues”
“Mapping Woody Guthrie
https://www.willkaufman.com/

Complete interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHePCMT2Fk

Gustavus Stadler, author of
“Woody Guthrie, an Intimate Life”
https://www.haverford.edu/users/gstadler

Complete interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzBOmGCOcM

Music sources
Hands Off Protest Brass Band
April 5, 2025, Augusta, ME
“This Land Is Your Land”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2vU0TpcspDM

Mile Krajina – Guslar
Tale of Josip Jelačić
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR8M118JKlQ

Adama Kammisoko – voice, kamal’n’goni
“Hunter’s Tale”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XumEloP5wJ8

Woody Guthrie — voice, guitar
“Ranger’s Command”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5NJKx8ObDY

Pete Seeger in conversation with Alan Chartock, WAMC Radio, courtesy WAMC
Seeger image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Seeger#/media/File:Renehan_Seeger_March2008.jpg
Will Geer image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Geer#/media/File:Will_Geer_cast_portrait.jpg
Lomax image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Lomax#/media/File:Alan_Lomax.jpg
Woody Guthrie — voice & guitar
“This Land Is Your Land”
“Jesse James”
Included in the “Conversation with Alan Chartock recording”

Ramblin’ Jack Elliott — voice & guitar
“Pretty Boy Floyd”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BQJgq3R-Ew
“Ramblin’ Jack Sings the Songs of Woody Guthrie”
Prestige INT 13016

John McCutcheon —voice &  dulcimer
“Pastures of Plenty”
Recorded live at Black Rose Acoustical Society
https://www.blackroseacoustic.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTDC_sjuxk
https://www.folkmusic.com/

Joshuah Brian Campbell — voice
“Do Re Mi”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J76i45m9Y3w
https://joshuahbriancampbell.com/

Tree Palmedo—Trumpet / Ben Sobel—Saxophone
Alex Graff—Guitar / Ethan Simon—Piano
Jonathan Elyashiv—Bass / Ross Hodgkinson—Drums
Video by Greg Liszt
The Lily Pad, Cambridge, MA
August 4, 2017

Watermelon Slim
“Vigilante Man”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFdKaup9_Sk
https://watermelonslim.com/

Woody Guthrie — voice & guitar
“Danville Girl”
Smithsonian Folkways SFW CD 40112

David Amram &
The Colorado Symphony
“This Land — Symphonic
Variations On A Theme By
Woody Guthrie”
David Amram on meeting Woody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ya9mgpbxhY
https://davidamram.com/
Newport Classic NPD 85692

The Alibi Sisters
“Haneky Hanukkah”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1byX_I2R7k

Woody Guthrie — voice & guitar
“Swimmy Swim”
“How De Do”
“The Car Song”
From “Songs To Grow On” — Folkways 808

Tantrum Zentrum
“Miss Pavlichenko / Lady Death”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RCNrwKJiM8
https://tantrumzentrum.bandcamp.com/

Sihasin
“Mean Things Happening In This World”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqhv9duiPuQ
https://sihasin.com/

The Missin’ Cousins
“Old Man Trump”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jANuVKeYezs
https://themissincousins.bandcamp.com/

Tim Grimm
“Woody’s Landlord”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeSDRqbfXHU
https://timgrimm.com/

Woody Guthrie — voice & guitar
“The Great Los Angeles Flood”
Cantometrics Training Tapes

Keith Secola — voice & guitar
“This Land Is My Land”
https://secola.com/home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA5cX7dYqKM

Pete Seeger, Bruce Springsteen, &
Tao Rodriguez Seeger
“This Land Is Your Land”
Obama Inauguration HBO broadcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnvCPQqQWds

Benya Stewart — voice & guitar
“So Long/A Mighty Big War”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF_Sv3axDjc
https://www.benyastewart.com/

Rhiannon Giddens & the
Reisstance Revival Chorus —
“All You Fascists Bound To Lose”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWUa7aAIfLE
https://rhiannongiddens.com/

Guthrie Foundation:
https://woodyguthrie.org/

Huntington’s Disease Society of America
https://hdsa.org/

Copyright information:

“Thinking About Woody” offers a cornucopia of perspectives on the life and legacy of the great American balladeer Woody Guthrie.  Interviews with Guthrie scholars Will Kaufman and Gus Stadler are interwoven with spoken and musical excerpts from Woody himself as well as Pete Seeger, Alan Lomax, Ramblin’ Jack Elliott, Mile Krajina, Adama Kammisoko, John McCutcheon, Joshuah Brian Campbell, Watermelon Slim, Tantrum Zentrum, David Amram, Sihasin, The Missin’ Cousins, Tim Grimm, Keith Secola, Benya Stewart, and the Resistance Revival Chorus with Rhiannon Giddens.

At the Cool Tunes for a Hot Planet website, you can find full information about the sources of the music and interviews used in this podcast, along with the master video recordings of host Warren Senders’ interviews with Will Kaufman and Gus Stadler.

THIS LAND IS YOUR LAND
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO –©– Copyright 1956 (Renewed) 1958 (Renewed) 1970 (Renewed) Ludlow
Music, Inc., New York, New York
Used by Permission

THE RANGER’S COMMAND
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO-© Copyright 1963 (Renewed) Ludlow Music, Inc., New York, NY

HOWDIDO
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
WGP/TRO-©Copyright 1961 (Renewed) 1963 (Renewed) Woody Guthrie Publications, Inc. &
Ludlow Music, Inc., New York, NY
administered by Ludlow Music, Inc.

PASTURES OF PLENTY
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO –©– Copyright 1960 (Renewed) 1963 (Renewed) Ludlow Music, Inc.,
New York, New York
Used by Permission

VIGILANTE MAN
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO – © Copyright 1961 (Renewed) and 1963 (Renewed) Ludlow Music, Inc.,
New York, NY
Used by Permission

JESSE JAMES
Words and Music by Huddie Ledbetter and Woody Guthrie
TRO-© 1991 Folkways Music Publishers, Inc., New York, NY
Used by Permission

SWIMMY SWIM
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO – © Copyright 1961 (Renewed), 1963 (Renewed) Folkways Music
Publishers, Inc., New York, NY
Used by Permission

RIDING IN MY CAR (The Car Song)
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO – (c) Copyright 1954 (Renewed) and 1969 (Renewed) Folkways Music Publishers, Inc.,
New York, NY
Used by Permission

MISS PAVILICHENKO
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie
TRO – © Copyright 1963 (Renewed) Ludlow Music, Inc., New York, NY
Used by Permission

PLANE WRECK AT LOS GATOS
(Deportee)
Words by Woody Guthrie; Music by Martin Hoffman
WGP/TRO-© Copyright 1961 (Renewed), 1963 (Renewed) Woody Guthrie Publications, Inc., &
Ludlow Music, Inc., New York, NY
administered by Ludlow Music, Inc.

 
 
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